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Hatsan AT-P2 QE: Questions & Answers

As mentioned previously, I purchased a Hatsan AT-P2 QE pistol.  A few guys email med asking questions and I decided to post my answers here for others to read also:

How comfortable is it?  It looks like a kid’s toy.

I’m 5′ 8″ and find it very comfortable shoot.  I wanted a small profile PCP repeating airgun so I bought it wanting to hold it close to show a small profile.  I’m right handed and my left hand naturally goes to the front of handguard.  I think that is why they designed it with that angle.

I have the stock adjusted one click back out of five.  The cheek piece is adjustable but I found it did not need to be changed.  Again, it works fine for me.  I have no interest in trying to use it as a giant pistol.

How tight is the stock?

It wiggles just a tiny bit without a load but once I put it to my shoulder and place my cheek on the rest, it is solid.

Does it have two triggers?

No.  The front thing that looks like a trigger is the safety lever.  It’s actually very slick once you get used to it.  My Gladius has the same safety and trigger set up.  While it may look different, you can very easily turn it on, off or check the status.

The trigger is colored gold and the think safety lever is in front of it.

The trigger itself is Hatsan’s Quattro trigger and is user adjustable.  It has three screws for overall trigger travel, second state engagement and trigger pull weight.  Hatsan USA has a video on how to adjust the trigger – click here.

Does Hatsan make decent air guns?

Yes, they actually make very good airguns.  They are located in Turkey and don’t have the same brand recognition as Daisy, Crosman, Gamo, etc.  I posted factory tour video a while back that I found.

Why did I pick .22 caliber?

Well, I was worried that if I went with .177 that I would not have enough foot pounds of energy (FPE) to cleanly kill the pests I expected – squirrels, ground squirrels, and rabbits.  In talking with guys and reading, I decided to go with .22 for a trade off between power, air use and sound.  The bigger calibers are much louder and use more air.  I’ve found that .22 is plenty for me given I am shooting relatively short distances most of the time. 

Does a hand pump really work or should a person buy a SCUBA tank?

Guys, the last thing I want to do is to buy a tank and deal with going to get it filled.  I have a Hill Mk.4 hand pump and highly recommend it.  I bought it for my Gladius and now use it on the AT-P2 also.  What is nice is that the air cylinder is small on the AT-P2.  I shoot about 8-10 rounds and then top it off back to 200 BAR and that takes about 20-30 pumps.  When I see I am down to 2-3 pellets, I top the magazine off.

This is the Hill MK.4 pump.  The small bottle is Silicone Grease.  I periodically coat the shaft of the pump and the male quick connect plug.  I do it once every couple of months – not much really.

Now if you tell me you plan on shooting a ton, then you might want a tank or one of the new little portable compressors that are available.  I’m using it for pest control so my average number of shots at a time is 1-2 and then I done.  It’s easy for me to top off the magazine and the tank.

In Closing

I appreciated the folks sending in the questions and hope my answers helped them out.

6/29/2020 Update: Still very happy with the AT-P2 – it’s great on pest control with squirrels. We now have replacement fill-probe O-rings and caps to keep your fill probe clean. Click here to learn more.


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Hatsan AT-P2 QE Reviews and Videos That I found Helpful When Researching My Purchase

In the old days, kids I mean like the 1970s and 80s in my case, you went to the library and read old magazines or asked your friends about what they knew.  These days, we tap into the web and can watch videos and read reviews.  I tell you, it’s pretty amazing what you can find.  So, when I was researching what small precharged pneumatic (PCP) pistol or bullpup to buy for discrete pest control use mostly in 10-15 yards vs. my .22 Hatsan Gladius Long, I hopped on and started digging.

I quickly got my selection narrowed down to the Hatsan AT-P2 QE as I mentioned in a previous post and then bought it.  What I want to share with you are some of the third party review videos that I found very helpful during the selection process.

Here’s the best video on the AT-P2 QE specifically:

The following is a review of the base AT-P2 without the integrate Quiet Energy (QE) moderator:

Third party written reviews:

These are Hatsan’s pages:

I hope these help you out.  I am very please with my pistol so far and would recommend anyone needing a discrete powerful and accurate .22 PCP repeater.


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The Wicked Hatsan AT P2 Pistol / Carbine Combo – Powerful, Compact & Quiet

Hatsan is a Turkish company that was founded in 1976 and makes a number of airguns as well as shotguns. My first Hatsan was .22 Long Gladius Precharged Pneumatic (PCP) bullpup air rifle. The Gladius is amazing but I really wanted to find something smaller and more discrete. Even though the Gladius is a bullpup, it is still fairly big and heavy. I started looking for something else and ran across the Hatsan AT P2 and found what I was looking for.

Hatsan comes up with some radical designs that are well thought out and executed. I was very happy with Gladius so when I saw the AT P2 and that it had their proven Quatro trigger, was a PCP repeater, used their great 10 round magazines, and had integral Quiet Energy baffles, I was pretty much sold but kept reading 🙂

I prefer .22 caliber airguns for dealing with larger pests. The AT P2 claims 780 FPS so that will make around 19.8 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle. This matters to me because I need the carbine for pest control – chiefly ground squirrels, tree squirrels and rabbits – all of which tear up our gardens. These animals typically need about 3-5 ft/lbs to be dealt with provided accurate shot placement. This means you need an airgun that can put pellets on target in an area of 1″ or less at the range you expect.

I am typically taking care of pests within 10 yards and rarely out to 20. In digging I read reports that the AT P2 was surprisingly accurate, had a good trigger and could hit surprisingly hard with for 10-20 pellets. Unlike the Gladius, there isn’t a power adjustment plus you are talking about a fairly small 50cc air tank compressed to 200 bar (2900 PSI).

Hill Mk4 Hand Pump

Another reason for my buying the AT P2 was that I could continue to use my Hill Mk4 hand pump that really has proven itself to be exemplery. The Gladius and AT P2 use the same air fill probe so I didn’t need to worry about changing probes or buying a second pump.

I actually find the smaller air cylinder works in my favor with the Hill pump. I shoot one magazine and top it off again to 200 bar. It doesn’t take too many pumps to do that compared to a bigger cylinder where you need to put more air into the tank.

UTG 3-9×21 Mil-Dot Bug Buster Scope

So, I ordered the carbine and a UTG 3-9×21 Mil-Dot Bug Buster scope with an adjustable objective. UTG makes great scopes and I’ve used them extensively on airguns and firearms that are not mission critical. I don’t mean this as a negative to UTG – It’s just that I will go to Vortex for those situations.

The Bug Buster scopes are just ideal for this type of application. They are compact, bright, clear and pretty reliable. I’ve had a few over the years and haven’t had one break or fail to hold zero.

They have a number of models of Bug Buster scopes and I don’t think you will be disappointed in any of them. Here’s the one that is on my AT P2:

If I had it to do over, I would buy a scope that has turret for adjusting the illuminated reticle. The push buttons work fine but I prefer the simplicity of a turret – I guess I am just old school. A lit reticle can make a low light shot either early in the morning or at dusk way easier. Here’s what I would recommend:

Plano 1502 Hard Case

I already had a basic Plano 1502 hard case to store everything in. It comes with a little hard case from Hatsan but I wanted to have enough room to put the carbine with the scope attached inside.

The only con in the case of the 1502 is that it has an interior length of 50-7/8″. That is really long relative to the AT P2. I have the stock extended one click and that makes the overall length 32-/34″ and the height from the bottom of the grip to the top of the scope turret is just under 10-1/2″. The AT P2 could have gone in a far smaller case but I made do with what I had.

JSB Exact Jumbo Diablo 15.89gr Pellets

I really like JSB pellets. I’ve shot over a thousand of the 18.23gr pellets through my Gladius. I wanted something lighter to try for better in flight ballistics and less over-penetration so on a gamble I ordered the 15.89 gr pellets.

How did it turn out?

I’m really happy is what it boils down to. I needed to oil the safety lever to smooth it out but other than that, it shoots like a dream. I tell you what, it definitely takes care of tree squirrels – head shots are no problem at all and the trigger is remarkable.

One thing that surprised me is the target grip. It comes with a right hand only grip set that is remarkable comfortable. If you are a Lefty, you can contact Hatsan USA and they will send you a left hand set.

The removable adjustable stock is clearly innovative. I find it way to big to be a pistol plus I want the stability. I didn’t buy it to use without the stock. Removing the stock is simple – push the big detent button and pull straight back.

As mentioned, it is a big pistol as this next photo shows. Unless I was resting it on a fence or something there is no way I would be able to control it. If you have a lot of arm strength and can keep a big pistol steady, then maybe but not me.

The stock can adjust four clicks to be quite long. I just need to go back one click and I am 5′ 8″. The cheek piece is adjustable but I did not need to do so.

This is what it looks like for me:

It’s also remarkably quiet. I haven’t run it side by side with my Gladius to compare the sounds at equivalent feet per second but I can tell you it is way quieter than by Gladius on power setting four. I think the cocking is louder than the report of the airgun and it will put a tree squirrel down hard. Headshots tend to stop in the cranium but heart and lung shots go through the body.

Conclusion

It’s performing exactly the way I had hoped. It is compact, quiet, powerful and also very accurate. I’d definitely recommend it.

If you’d like more comparisons between the Gladius Long and AT P2 QE Pistol, click here.


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