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Comparing the Hatsan AT-P2 QE Pistol to the Gladius Long

Before I bought my Hatsan AT-P2 QE Pistol, I did a bunch of research. I wanted a very compact yet powerful and accurate pre-charged pneumatic (PCP) carbine or bullpup that was a repeater for quick and accurate follow up shots for pest control of tree and ground squirrels.

I needed something smaller than my Gladius Long, lighter and did not need the power levels that the Gladius Long bring to the table. The Gladius Long is an absolutely wicked PCP bullpup but for what I need most of the time – discrete firepower to dispatch squirrels and rabbits inside of 12-15 yards most of the time – it was overkill. I love it and am not selling it, but definitely needed a different go-to airgun.

So, I watched a ton of videos and decided on the Hatsan AT P2 and decided to go with the QT-P2 QE Pistol. It was compact, lighter, had solid reviews and had both an adjustable stock and in integral noise moderator built in. Hatsan refers to these as their Quiet Energy (QE) line.

In this next photo, I literally set the AT-P2 QE on top of the Gladius Long and tried to line up the muzzles as best I could so you can see the size difference.

So here’s the comparison of the two:

As you can see the actual package weight including the scope of the AT-P2 QE Tact is 4.6 pounds lighter that the Gladius Long and it is 6-5/8″ shorter.

In terms of energy, I did a lot of reading and can’t tell you for certain. Hatsan themselves says the Gladius Long will produce the following power levels but they don’t tell you the velocity or the weight of the pellet.

From the 2018 Airgun catalog, Hatsan reports the AT-P2 QE in .22 has a muzzle energy of 27 joules. All things being equal, that puts it between power levels 3 and 4 of the Gladius Long. I tend to switch between those two settings so for me, the power of the AT P2 is right in the sweet zone of what I wanted.

In terms of sound, the Gladius is relatively quiet at 3 and louder at 4. The AT-P2 QE is remarkably quiet. To me as the shooter, cocking the pistol is louder than firing it!

Both pistols have the noteworthy Hatsan Quattro adjustable trigger. I thought the trigger of the Gladius Long was the best factory airgun trigger I had tried until shooting the AT-P2 QE. From the factory, it is light! I need to measure it but it is a dream to shoot because I can hold it rock solid on target effortlessly. On the point of accuracy, it can shoot 1/2″ groups at 10 yards over and over using JSB Exact Jumbo Diablo 15.89 grain pellets.

Summary

I’m keeping the Gladius Long for distance shots and/or when I want more power. I will be using the AT-P2 QE for my normal close-in pest work.


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Hatsan* ATP2 Tactical Pistol PCP (.177cal)

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Hatsan Gladius Long (.25 Cal) PCP Air Rifle

$425.00 (3 Bids)
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Hatsan Gladius Long (.25 Cal) PCP Air Rifle- Manufacture Refurbished

$599.99
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Hatsan Gladius (.25 cal) PCP Air Rifle- Refurb

$599.00
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Hatsan Gladius (.22 Cal) PCP Rifle

$718.82
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Hatsan Gladius (.177 cal) PCP Air Rifle- Refurb

$579.71
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Hatsan Gladius PCP Air Rifle .25 Caliber 9 Rounds, Black Synthetic HGGLAD25

$649.99
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Hatsan Gladius Long - 0.25 cal Bullpup Stock Design

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Hatsan Gladius Bullpup Stock Design - 0.22 cal

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Hatsan Gladius Bullpup Stock Design - 0.22 cal

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Hatsan Gladius Short - 0.25 cal Bullpup Stock Design

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A Video Tour of the Hatsan Factory in Kemalpaşa, Turkey

Hatsan Arms Company is an innovative builder of air guns and shotguns that was founded in 1976 and produce over 300,000 units per year.  Hatsan is located in Kemalpaşa, which is a large town located in the Izmir Province of Turkey.  There they product Hatsan airguns, Escort shotguns and Optima shotguns.

   

One interesting facet of Hatsan is that they handle all facets of production – machining of wood, machining of metal parts, heat treatment, finishing of work such as honing, different types of chemical plating & bluing, injection molding, metal injection, mold making, welding, barrel manufacturing, laser marking, laser engraving on wood & metal parts, camouflage coating, assembly, quality assurance testing, and test shooting.

Hatsan has over 650 workers, 599 machines in 35,000 square meter production area.  To produce products to high standards, Hatsan uses total quality management (TQM) and are ISO 9001 certified.

You’ll note factory looks well used, is relatively organized and bright.

Work centers are organized and appear well equipped.

Substantial automation including a variety of CNC systems.

This is an interesting 5:28 video that showcased their facility in 2015:


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Hatsan AirTact QE Air Rifle .25 cal w/ Optima 4x32 Scope & Rings - HCAirTact25ED

$119.84
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Hatsan Flash Wood Quiet Energy Air Rifle

$399.99
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Hatsan Model 135 Vortex QE .177/.25/.30 caliber

$292.90
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Hatsan AirMax PCP Air Rifle

$699.00
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Hatsan Model 135 Vortex QE .177/.25/.30 caliber

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Hatsan Vectis .25 PCP Lever Action Repeater Air Rifle, Synth Stock - HGVectis25

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New Hatsan AirTact ED Break Barrel Air Rifle With 4x32 Optima Scope

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Hatsan Gladius Long (.25 Cal) PCP Air Rifle

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Hatsan Mod 25 SuperCharger (.177 cal) Air Pistol- BLACK - Refurb

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Hatsan Galatian (.25cal) QE Air Rifle- Black Syn

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Hatsan Striker .22 Cal. 800 FPS Black Air Rifle with 3-9x32mm Scope

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Hatsan Gladius (.22 Cal) PCP Rifle

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Hatsan AirTact QE Air Rifle .22 cal w/ Optima 4x32 Scope & Rings - HCAirTact22ED

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Hatsan Mod 125 Sniper Camo Vortex QE .22 Caliber Air Rifle with Included Bundle

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Hatsan Mod 95 Spring Combo .22 Cal. Air Rifle-Walnut Stock HC9522

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Hatsan 1000 Vortex Air Rifle Combo (.25cal) - Hardwood

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